Teasing foreigners, great fun for the whole family ! But now no more !

[Pascale H. Erfahrenes Forumsmitglied Alle Beiträge durchsuchen Profil ansehen Schließen Pascale H.]

You are abroad and are invited by a family. A nice thing, if it weren't for the language problem. You understand some things, but not everything. If there are tensions, then the catastrophe is there. The foreign guest is quickly pushed into the corner verbally. There is no trace of fairness or consideration for language problems. The ignorance of the language is not seen as a handicap, but as a chance to make fun of the foreigner. Goodbye fairness !
Later one can still report to the environment of it. And strongly say the untruth. The foreigner stands there as a complete idiot. The own superiority is proven.

This has changed now, at least partially. There are translation programs, which come very close to good German, French or English etc.. Often one knows the mail addresses, Facebook, of the acquaintances etc. and can then at least defend oneself in writing.

I am often abroad in Europe and make use of this possibility for some time. It took some time for my acquaintances to realize that they can't just verbally lash out.
In critical discussions I retreat to "neutral territory", i.e. to a foreign language that is also a foreign language for the other person. This neutralizes very quickly the aggressiveness, because these people often know only one language.
Another possibility is to offer the discussion by messenger or mail. You then have the mail translated by a translation program, formulate the answer, which is then translated into the language of the other person. And that's the end of the speechlessness!
The counterpart then realizes very quickly that the apparently language-impaired foreigner is in reality his equal.
The possibility of translation programs can not completely prevent bullying of foreigners, but help to reduce the problems.

Sometimes modern technology is a blessing after all !

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[Lorsque Forumsmitglied Alle Beiträge durchsuchen Profil ansehen Schließen Lorsque]

This is a contribution that speaks to me from the heart. I was in a European country whose language I only know to a certain extent. In a problematic situation, my counterparts used their language advantage mercilessly. My only option was to retreat !
One should not take the European idea too far as long as language barriers exist and, above all, are used against one in the most evil way.
What chance do you have in a discussion in a garage if you don't speak the language ? None at all! In personal relationships, too, the partner often does not take language problems into account. One's own point of view is asserted and the other person is kicked into the mud.
We are still far from a humane and understanding way of dealing with each other.

[Cleg Forumsmitglied Alle Beiträge durchsuchen Profil ansehen Schließen Cleg]

Linguistic disability in a foreign language can have similar effects as stuttering, deafness and muteness. In the end, the person opposite does not get to hear flawless German, French, etc.. If he is intelligent and tolerant, he recognizes the problems of his opposite and (!) tries to help him. People with bad character, on the other hand, start fooling around or even worse. This kind of bullying is widespread. As already mentioned, translation programs can partially solve the problem.

[Francine 88 Forumsmitglied Alle Beiträge durchsuchen Profil ansehen Schließen Francine 88]

It is about language, but also about groups or families. You stand there, hardly understand the language and then also have the family or the circle of friends against you. I had a girlfriend, who in turn had a girlfriend. The girlfriend was in a social fringe group. I thought that just such a person, because of their own experience could understand how I feel. But, she lashed out at me just like everyone else.

[Verzweifelt Forumsmitglied Alle Beiträge durchsuchen Profil ansehen Schließen Verzweifelt]

Quote: The friend was in a socially marginalised group. I thought that just such a person, because of her own experience, could understand how I felt. But, she lashed out at me just like everyone else.

That's my experience too. One thinks that those who have suffered injustice would be sensitised. But, most of the time, they behave just like the people they actually despise.

[Yogini Forumsmitglied Alle Beiträge durchsuchen Profil ansehen Schließen Yogini]

My acquaintance, let's call her Frantic, does yoga. Because of her sexual orientation, she has been subjected to great hostility. Other circumstances of her life are also problematic. She has had to experience the injustices of life several times. But, she has learned from the injustices and has achieved a higher level tolerance. That's what I thought when I met her.
In the post above, there is the sentence: You think that those who have suffered injustice would be sensitized. But, most of the time, they behave just like the people they actually despise.

Unfortunately, it is sometimes so that these people have not processed their verinnerlichet anger, but then live out on other people. Linguistically handicapped people, even foreigners who do not speak the language properly are ideal for this. Unfortunately, I had to experience this myself. In a situation where I expected tolerance and understanding, this person behaved very badly. Aware of her linguistic superiority, she really reacted on the lowest level and made the situation even worse.
She calls herself a yoga master. A master she is ! A master of bad behavior !

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[Croc Forumsmitglied Alle Beiträge durchsuchen Profil ansehen Schließen Croc]

Quote: Unfortunately, it is sometimes the case that these people have not worked through their internalised anger, but then act it out on other people.
Yes, unfortunately that is the case ! Forgiving and forgetting are not common human traits,

[Lauwald Forumsmitglied Alle Beiträge durchsuchen Profil ansehen Schließen Lauwald]

I know the problem. Hardly that someone believes to be verbally superior, already he lets out the sow. Especially the people who usually only speak one language feel superior to the foreigner. Which they are purely linguistically. Stupidly, there are now translation services that also help the foreigner to defend himself linguistically. Yes, who would have thought that now the lousy crutches get their deserved answer ? I, for one, think this is a good development. It helps to get more justice in this world ! Stop language bullying of foreigners. Whether as a German in another European country, or as a Senegalese in Thailand. With the help of translation services you can answer. Only in writing, but that is enough to chase the cowardly little rats back into their holes !

[Boston legal besonders erfahrenes Mitglied Alle Beiträge durchsuchen Profil ansehen Schließen Boston legal]

Equating ignorance of a language with disability is an interesting approach. The practical effect of deafness can certainly be compared to not understanding a foreign language. Hardly anyone would make fun of a deaf person because of his disability, except for the really bad types. With the ignorance of the language, however, it looks quite different. "Learn first times correctly German" is there so some also with the authorities angefahren. Or, you try to buy something in a French department store and the saleswoman finds it very funny to say again and again: "Excuse me? Who ever tried to start a conversation in a bar in Australia, knows how bad it can be. despite a good knowledge of English. But, is it bullying ?

Well, I think, who consciously uses his language advantage to discriminate another person, to make him ridiculous or to enforce his opinion, is mobbing !

[Taurin Forumsmitglied Alle Beiträge durchsuchen Profil ansehen Schließen Taurin]

Not only in terms of language are people made fun of. Also the so-called "usual behaviors" are changed in such a way that the foreigner stands there as the stupid one, the ignorant one. The usual customs are sometimes limited to only a small population group or a family. This is then also a great fun, when the foreigner stands there as the stupid one !

[Habitat Forumsmitglied Alle Beiträge durchsuchen Profil ansehen Schließen Habitat]

Quote: Linguistic disability in a foreign language can have similar effects as stuttering, deafness and muteness. In the end, the other person does not get to hear perfect German, French, etc.. If he is intelligent and tolerant, he recognizes the problems of his counterpart and tries to help him. Persons with bad character, on the other hand, start fooling around or even worse. This kind of bullying of foreigners is widespread. As mentioned above, translation programs can partially solve the problem. "
Answer: it also becomes problematic when dealing with authorities. A quick call from a neighbor about an alleged or minor misdemeanor and there are problems, mainly based on lack of language skills. What a native can clarify with three sentences, means for the foreigner a difficult translation with a corresponding error rate. It is difficult to invoke one's rights if one does not know them and is also unable to convey them linguistically.

[Sitar Forumsmitglied Alle Beiträge durchsuchen Profil ansehen Schließen Sitar]

It is mostly people from the lower social strata who make fun of foreigners. Or, in the case of employees, the "subalterns". An acquaintance of mine had a problem with the fact that I speak several languages. He therefore liked to tell the story of the waiter in a restaurant who supposedly knew seven foreign languages to compensate for his problem.

[Rothenberger Forumsmitglied Alle Beiträge durchsuchen Profil ansehen Schließen Rothenberger]

People who have been brought up for 10 or 20 years according to a certain system cannot be integrated by a simple course. The upbringing sits deep in the unconscious and it takes years for behavior to adapt to the other culture. Why this is not taken into account in immigration policy is beyond me.

[Chaga Forumsmitglied Alle Beiträge durchsuchen Profil ansehen Schließen Chaga]

..... ]One is abroad and is invited by a family. A nice thing, if it weren't for the language problem. One understands some things, but not everything. If there are tensions, then the disaster is there. The foreign guest is quickly pushed into the corner verbally. There is no trace of fairness or consideration for language problems. The ignorance of the language is not seen as a handicap, but as a chance to make fun of the foreigner. Goodbye fairness !
Later one can still report to the environment of it. And strongly say the untruth. The foreigner stands there as a complete idiot.

My answer . how often have I experienced this ! One is completely helpless. Can only go and eat his anger inside. Therefore I agree 100% with the statements made here ! Also good that you can now answer simple at least with the written things. Since one is sometimes quite deliberately littered with tons of paper. Let the foreigner but see how he gets along with it.

[Rigg Forumsmitglied Alle Beiträge durchsuchen Profil ansehen Schließen Rigg]

Unfortunately, this is also the case within Europe. Sad !