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  • Disturbed neighbors stalk and provoke


    Since this year I have been stalked, harassed and provoked by certain people in the neighborhood. I don't know why. He doesn't talk. It started with an older man who lives a few houses down from ours. We have no contact and don't know him personally, and he doesn't know us. First he keeps staring over and smirking, then he looks in our car, which we bought. He talks badly about me behind my back. He keeps walking past our front door. I reported him. After that, it was quiet until he called in a third party. Since we live in the country, that's easy to do. Since then, these third parties have been doing his chores, which he no longer dares to do himself. They follow and watch me, provoke me and make fake attacks, e.g. they act as if they want to hit me.
    My next door neighbor also joins in and looks out of the window when I leave the house. A short time later, the others come out too and the watching begins. Sometimes they are already standing outside my front door, cell phone in hand. Garbage is thrown at our front door and I'm also stalked in my apartment. Someone rings the doorbell every day. My neighbor guards the hallway and listens to what is being said in the apartment, which is not difficult because it's an old building. So she knows about things she wouldn't normally know.
    These people are constantly standing around me, watching and eavesdropping. The police and lawyer couldn't do anything about it. Since then, the stalking neighbor dares to come out again and parks his car in front of our door to see when we leave the house (he has a camera in his car). He's also watching me from his house, he's even had cameras installed there that show public areas, but nobody here is interested. Is moving really the only option?
    Which is also very difficult in this day and age. Do these disturbed people always get away with it?

    If you have any tips / informations on what I can do about it legally, please let me know!


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  • #2
    This is clearly neighbourhood bullying!

    Little by little a group is formed whose aim is to get one person or family down. They feel strong in the group ( MOB !) and many activities remain in the dark or are anonymous.
    There is the possibility to leave. But nowadays it is not so easy to find accommodation.
    Another option is to approach people individually and directly.
    This has to be done skilfully and diplomatically. No arguments. That would be counterproductive.
    You have to develop a certain insensitivity. It's not easy, but it's necessary. As quickly as such groups come together, they also disperse if they don't see any results.

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    • #3
      My advice -

      Document the incidents: Keep a record of the bullying incidents, including the date, time, location and description of what happened. This documentation can be helpful if you later have to involve the authorities, police, lawyer, etc. or take legal action.

      Talk to the bullies (if it is safe to do so): If you feel comfortable and safe doing so, you can try to have a calm and respectful conversation with the people involved. Sometimes misunderstandings can be cleared up through communication. Unfortunately, only sometimes ...

      Call in the law enforcement authorities: If the bullying escalates to the point where your safety or well-being is threatened, you may need to involve the police. Provide the police with the documentation you have collected and any other relevant information.

      Ask the local authorities for support: In some cases, neighbourhood associations or local community groups can mediate or provide support during conflicts. Contact your local council or community centre to find out about available resources.

      Encourage bystanders to intervene: Ask neighbours or friends to support you and put an end to bullying. When others stand up to bullying, it can discourage the behaviour.

      Contact a counsellor or therapist: Dealing with bullying can be emotionally challenging. A mental health professional can help you deal with the stress and anxiety that can arise from the situation.

      Know your rights: Find out about your rights and local laws regarding bullying. In some cases, there is legal protection against bullying or harassment.

      Be aware of your personal safety: Avoid confrontations that could lead to a further escalation of the situation.

      Consider mediation: If the bullying is about conflicts with neighbours, you may be able to contact a mediation service in your community. Mediation can help the parties find a solution without resorting to legal action. There are professional mediators. Ask about the costs beforehand!

      Remember that your safety and well-being come first. Do not hesitate to seek help and support from trustworthy people, authorities or organisations in your community. Neighbourhood bullying is unacceptable and there are resources available to help address and resolve these issues.
      Publicising it, for example in this forum, can also help. You are not alone with your problem. There are hundreds of thousands who are experiencing problems due to mentally disturbed neighbours. It is also time to publicise this problem. You should no longer be put off with "poor, sick neighbour".

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      • #4
        Nala commented

        13.11.2023, 23:37

        Hello and thank you for your advice.

        I have already done the whole thing up to point 3. Unfortunately without success. The police want ME to provide evidence that I don't have, as these people are very subtle and skilful. My lawyer has also tried to help me, but unfortunately without success.

        The people around me stay out of it instead of mediating. My friends couldn't do anything either. I can ask the local council if there's any help.

        The funny thing is that my neighbour who bullies is a psychotherapist, hard to believe but she has everyone under control! People like her and don't believe me when I say what she does.

        Unfortunately, I haven't found any protection here. I feel like nobody wants to help me. Neither the police nor anyone else.

        The last sentence says it all. I'm still looking for more help. So far, I'm still pretty much on my own. I've also written to various organisations and phoned them. They couldn't help me either. It seems to me that they are allowed to do anything. They just don't get any consequences. You can't beat these guys up either, then you're the bad guy! Because I'm not afraid of them.



        Answer from Mrs von Klarenfeld

        The funny thing is that my neighbour who bullies is a psychotherapist, it's hard to believe but she has everyone under control!

        That's really bad! You hardly stand a chance against certain professional groups. I had problems with a policeman. He turned a whole police station against me. In the end, even the public prosecutor believed him. The truth came to light by chance. I'm still waiting for an apology from the police today!


        Ich grüße Euch !
        Je vous salue !
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        • #5
          Countertransference is a popular game with this type of mental illness. A neighbour gave me a black eye and then claimed that I had attacked him with a broomstick. Tragically, the police initially investigated me. When his past history became known, the tide turned in my favour.

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          • #6
            don't get caught up in your neighbor's stupid game. Short, dry reactions are better than long explanations. Crazy people usually make obvious mistakes that are recognized by those around them and by the authorities.

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            • #7
              Question: Should I tell the police that he is mentally ill, or is that defamation?


              A delicate matter. In any case, you should choose a formulation that includes the possibility of retraction.

              So don't write : my neighbour is mentally ill

              but

              my neighbour may have mental problems.

              It is even better to describe facts from which the reader comes to the realisation that the person has mental problems.

              Your comment is very good: For example, he is afraid that there are creatures in his neighbourhood. He is terrified and therefore wants to close the path behind his house.
              Dr. Goldberg

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